MARTÍNEZ: “Exactly. For example, I no longer eat meat. I haven’t eaten meat for the past three years. But, what can we do? We can eat less meat.”

DE BEDOUT: “But people say, ‘Why are you going to force me to stop eating meat?’”

MARTÍNEZ: “Uh, no, We aren’t forcing (anyone) to quit eating meat; we’re saying that it would be better to eat less meat. Because, for example, having those cows graze, grow, and produce the meat that one eats in that steak, what happens? We need a lot of water, a lot of nourishment, they have to eat a great deal of grasses, and then there is the transportation of that meat.”