CARTER: “Well, the President himself should condemn it, admit it happened, which I think 16 of our intelligence agencies have already agreed to say. And there’s no doubt that the Russians did interfere in the election and I think the interference, although not yet quantified, if fully investigated would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election and he was put into office because of the Russian interference on his behalf.”

MEACHAM: “So you believe President Trump is an illegitimate president?”

CARTER: “Based on what I just said, which I can’t retract —