Numbers I’m seeing generally suggesting this was the best of his debates (although of course, they are still saying he lost).
Pundits on CNN with exception of Van Jones seem to be saying that he did well, with the exception of the accept the election results question.
Trump does strong when he talks border security, but some specifics would put him higher. pic.twitter.com/4EwkFaOy8j
— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) October 20, 2016
And on behalf of everyone I say debates over!
"That brings to an end this year's debates." #DebateNight pic.twitter.com/UwAXCUBT5I
— TODAY (@TODAYshow) October 20, 2016
Mistake to say he would have to ‘look at it’ if lost election. He did well, except for the phrasing of that answer. that will be the take away that they run with.
Final:
C: I’m reaching out to everyone to make economy work for everyone.
T: Make america great again, we have a depleted military. We don’t take care of our veterans. Our police are disrespected and we need law and order. I will do more for African Americans and Latinos then she could do in ten lifetimes. We cannot take four more years of Barack Obama and that’s what you get with her.
Entitlements
Wallace: neither of your plans are really addressing this. Would you make a deal to save Social Security?
T: I’m cutting taxes. I’m repealing Obamacare. [how is that going to help Social security?] She’s going to make Obamacare even worse.
C: We need to put more money in Social security trust fund. I will pay more as will Donald assuming he doesn’t find a way to get out of it (Donald: Such a nasty woman).
National Debt:
Wallace: would rise under either of your plans. Are you ignoring?
T: We will bring GDP up to 4% because of bringing in jobs. We’re going to become the industry powerhouse again. WE don’t use the great business people that we have, we use political hacks.
C: He has been criticizing our government for decades. And he took out an ad criticizing Reagan. He says ‘I alone can fix it’. I pay for everything I’m proposing. I take it very seriously. [yes but your plan will skyrocket the debt, asking the wealthy to pay more will slow down business and cost jobs].
Aleppo
Wallace: you said some things that were untrue. You said that Syria and Russia have been bombing ISIS and in fact they have been bombing Aleppo and rebels.
T: Obama gave Iran 1.7 billion in cash. Syria has aligned with Russia and Iran. If she had done nothing we would be in better shape. This is what caused the great migration.
Mosul
T: they have given up the element of surprise. That we had. But all we had to do was hold onto it. They’re doing it now, so that she can look good. It’s much more dangerous than they thought. But the leaders they wanted are all gone. Just like Iran, the worst deal ever. Iran will get nuclear weapons. Who will be the beneficiary, Iran.
C: I said it was a mistake. [but you voted for it]. He has not told the truth. I did vote for it.
T: John Podesta said some horrible things about you and boy was he right [ahahahahahahah]. He said you have terrible instincts.
C: I’m not going to slam the door on women and children. We are going to do careful vetting. Killer in Orlando was born in Queens. [but 142 attacks are related to ISIS and many of them do involve a refugee/asylum seeker.
Fitness to be President
Wallace: nine women have come forward and said that you groped them or kissed them without consent.
T: the stories have largely been debunked. they paid operative to incite violence at my rallies. Those stories are false. I think her campaign did it. And where her campaign told them to come out and start violence. I believe she got them to come forward.
C: Donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger. That’s who Donald is.
Wallace: You promised to avoid appearance of impropriety. Some donors got special benefits. Pay to play.
C: Everything I did was in furtherance of our country. [hahahahahahh you’re not answering].
T: You talk about women’s right? These people treat gays horribly and she has taken money from Saudi Arabia. The people in Haiti hate Clintons. What happened there is a disgrace. [good]
C: I would compare our foundation with Trump foundation. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere. WE raised money for them and small business. [then why do they hate you?] Of course we don’t know that anything he’s saying is true, because he hasn’t released his taxes. And he hasn’t paid his taxes.
T: We are entitled to do it under the law, under laws that she created. [should say that she herself did it].
Wallace: You have been warning that the election is rigged. Will you accept the election results?
T: I will look at it [Hillary smiling thinking she has him baited] she should not be allowed to run, based on what she did with emails.
Wallace: peaceful transition of power. Loser concedes to winner and comes together. Are you saying that you will not?
C: That’s horrifying. He always complains everything is rigged. This is a mindset. [you’re the one who is troubling with the suborning of the rule of law]. He is talking down our democracy.
T: I think meeting with AG and meeting with husband was horrible. And that hurts democracy.[cheers from audience].
Economy
C: You will not get a tuition bill if you get my plan We are going to have the wealthy pay their fair share. We are going to have corporations pay more. And will create thousands of new jobs. Donald’s on the other hand will give biggest tax cuts ever and cause another recession.
T: her plan is going to raise your taxes. Since I started bringing up the issue of allies paying, now they are paying. We have to say you have to help us out. We’ve doubled our national debts. We’re going to have more free trade. Our jobs are being sucked out by the deal her husband signed, NAFTA.
C: He’s going to advocate the largest tax cuts [she fails to understand tax cuts help economy as Kennedy said. When Dems were actually intelligent]. Investments in people [don’t sugar coat that that’s taxes.] Obama dug us out of the recession. [oh lord her voice is getting to me again, please don’t let her win, and I have to listen to that voice for four years].
T: growth is about 1%. Last report was so bad, I should win easily. I’ve met so many people and they are crying. But people have suffered so much from the deal her husband. And she lied about TPP.
C: We’re going to pull the country together and we’re going to have a trade prosecutor.
T: For thirty years you’ve been there. You talk a lot but you don’t get anything done. 6 billion dollars went missing when you were in charge of the State Department. [good!]
C: that’s been debunked [no, it hasn’t been.]. I’m happy to compare my 30 years experience with his 30 years.
T: I built a great company. And if we could run our country the way I did my company, we’d be in a great situation. But take a look at Syria, Libya. She gave us ISIS.
Immigration
T: She wants to give amnesty. Unfair to the people who have been waiting in line legally. In audience, I have moms of kids who were killed by illegal aliens. Border Patrol has endorsed me. all these people want strong borders. Drugs are poisoning youth. We have to have strong borders to keep the drugs out. [stop sniffling]. One of my first acts would be to get out the drug lords.
C: I was thinking about young girl, Carla, she was born in this country, but her parents were not. I don’t want to see them sent away or have deportation force Donald has talked about. I have been fore border security for years. My plan includes border security [oh wait, isn’t your dream ‘open borders’?] Donald didn’t even raise wall when he spoke with President and he choked.
T: I had a good meeting with President of Mexico.
C: Donald used undocumented workers and underpaid them and exploited them [and she is trying to bait him again].
[raise that her dream was OPEN BORDERS!] We will have borders.
Wallace: Speech that you said dream is hemispheric common market, open borders?
C: I was talking about energy. You are quoting from Wikileaks, the Russian government has committed espionage against America. This has come from Putin himself [well you don’t know that] Will Donald condemn this and that he rejects Russian espionage.
T: that was a great pivot away from open borders. She wants 550% more than Obama including from syria and we are going to stop radical Islamic terrorism. Putin has no respect for her and Obama. They’ve expanded their nuclear war heads and they can walk over this puppet.
C; You’re the puppet. Putin has a clear favorite in this race and you encouraged espionage. and they are designed to influence our election. He’d rather believe Putin than our intel people.
T: Of course I condemn Putin or anyone else involved in hacking. They’ve taken over the middle east and she has been outsmarted. [just like her husband and North Korea]
C: ten people who have had the authority over nuclear weapons have said that they would not trust Donald.
T: I have have over 200 admirals and generals supporting me. She’s been proven to be on liar on so many occasions.
Supreme Court:
Do founders words mean what they say or is it a living document?
C: central issue: what kind of country are we going to be? [why do all her answers sound like they are practiced in advance?] We need court that will stand up for women and LGBT and against Citizens United and against dark money. [huh, she’s the queen of dark money] People I would appoint would stand up to the powerful, and I would hope the Senate would do its job.
T: We need a Court that will uphold the 2d A, which is under siege. If my opponent should win, I feel that that would be in danger. The justices I would appoint would be pro-life and are great scholars, they would interpret it as the founders intended.
Wallace: Heller said can be reasonably limited, what’s wrong with that?
C: I support 2d A, I believe in reasonable regulation. We need to close online loophole and gun show loophole [loopholes that don’t exist].
Wallace how will you insure that 2dA is protected.
T: Hillary was extremely angry by the Heller decision.
C: I understand the NRA is on his side, but we need to save the 33,000 lives that are lost each year.
T: Chicago we have the toughest laws but the greatest killings with guns in country.
Wallace: pro-life, do you want them to overturn Roe vs. Wade.
T: if they overturned it it would go back to the states to decide.
C: I strongly support Roe V. Wade. [her practiced bullshit is annoying] Planned Parenthood provides cancer screenings. [no they don’t, that’s a lie]. He said that women should be punished and I could not be more opposed to that kind of thinking.
Wallace: how far do you go? You even support partial birth abortion.
C: [blah blah] End of term pregnancies are so difficult and you can regulate with the life and the health of the mother involved [she didn’t answer the question].
T: With Hillary’s position, you can rip the baby out of the womb in the last month, in the last day.
C: Well, that isn’t what’s happening here.
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6 15 minute segments, with 2 minute answers for each of the candidates.
Hold onto your hats, the last rumble about to go…
As CNN was preparing for the debate, the crowd behind them chanted, “Lock her up!”
Crowd chanting 'Lock Her Up!' live on @CNN during Panel discussion as Trump plane lands in Vegas for #debatenight #Debate #TrumpTrain pic.twitter.com/Ak3495XTjX
— Tennessee GOP (@TEN_GOP) October 19, 2016
