[Consensus: Pence won, Kaine is creepy and bizarre.]

[If you’re so offensive, I can’t even stand you to listen to you, that’s Tim Kaine, crazy clown man. Pence on there other hand came across as reasoned, intelligent and measured.]

Kaine being asked about abortion [not very Catholic].

[Pence is cut off by the moderator every time he makes a point against Hillary]

[Pence bringing up Clinton Foundation…bring up the small percentage actually paid out to those in need]

[Back to Putin…]

[Pence knocks Hillary on ‘Reset’. Kaine just keeps beating the dead horse of the tax returns, trying to take up time from Hillary weaknesses.]

[Kaine says they stopped Iran from getting nuclear weapons? Pence should bring up Bill Clinton is the reason that North Korea has them. ]

[Joker face of Kaine, his voice and interrupting is just so annoying. Talk about creepy crazy clowns…]

[Pence finally brings up handling of classified materials! Go! Moderator tries to shut him down.]

P: Trump’s laid out a plan to end illegal immigration. Hillary wants to continue this.

What would you tell the millions of undocumented immigrants who are might be deported? [what question is this? All the questions in this debate are sandbag questions]

K: Trump has insulted people, if we want to have people who respect laws, we can’t have someone at top who does that.

Sorry, this isn’t a debate this is Kaine and the moderator trying to shut Pence down whenever he starts to say anything.

Tim Scott said he was stopped 7 times.
P: I have the deepest respect for Scott, and we need criminal justice reform like we have in Indiana.

P: Police officers are the best of us, community policing is a great idea, we will make sure they have the resources to really restore law and order, why FOP have endorsed him. Accusing them with broad brush is not right. Stop seizing on moments of tragedy, have full investigation, don’t accuse as Hillary did, accuse cops of implicit bias.
K: Pilando killed for no apparent reason. They found he had been stopped 40 times.

K: We’re going to protect Social Security [you’ve already robbed from it, don’t be dishonest].
[sorry, I’m finding Kaine really hard to take, his voice and attitude is annoying].

[Kaine it the one speaking all over Pence, it’s not equal rudeness]

Trump’s taxes?
P: He went thru a difficult time. He’s created a business worth billions. NY Times also had loss.
K: He’s broken his promise. So it’s smart not to pay for our military.
P: Do you take all the deductions you are entitled to?

P: They want to do more taxes, debt, more govt- it’s run the economy into a ditch. Many more people in poverty.

K: Trilions of dollars in tax breaks for the people at the top just like Donald Trump.

P: we’ve almost doubled debt under Obama/Hillary. In Indiana we cut employment in half, and under Kaine it spiraled out of control.

Why do so many people think Trump’s temperament is bad?
P: Avalanche of insults from Obama and Clinton
K: (keeps interrupting) [oh this is spinning out of control, moderator? Pence looks steady, Kaine sounds insane]

Why do people think that Hillary is not honest?
K: Hillary also put other people first, Trump has not. Calls Mexicans rapists and criminals, and Obama not born in United States.

What makes you qualified to be President?

K: rehearsed answer. Served at all levels of Government, my primary role is to be Hillary’s right hand.
P: What an important time it is in the life of our nation. We’ve seen for last 7 1/2 years our economy stifled. If responsibility ever fell to me, I would bring lifetime of experience.

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GOP.com already declared Pence the winner an hour and a half before the debate started. Seriously. And yes, it’s true, even if it is CNN saying it here. Likely a good prediction that Pence will win.

So they should ask Kaine about this tonight:

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