Good grief, these people are insane.

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Well, the clown car had some more good company here. Remember Dean Chambers? He is the conservative activist who founded “Unskewed Polls” back in 2012 to correct the scientific polls that showed President Obama in the lead. Well, that math wizard has some criticism for the White House’s enrollment numbers now. Quote, “does this sound familiar? Of course. It’s just the last time of several that the regime has fabricated numbers to meet a goal it has set. The magic seven million ObamaCare sign-ups is no different than anything else reported by the regime, completely fraudulent, fake, and phony.”

What can you say about these guys besides they are health care enrollment truthers right now. Joan Walsh is editor at large at Salon and an MSNBC political analyst and Michelle Benard is president of the Benard Center for Women. Thank you Joan. First of all, the lingo. Regime. Whatever else you say about President Obama’s politics, his ideology, whatever you can figure about him, he was elected president of the United States in a democratic vote. He carried the electoral college twice. He is the only president I think since Ike whose gotten two plus 50 percent of plurality votes. He is a legitimate president of the United States. This is not a regime. People who talk like that are trying to do something I think is ugly.

I think they’re trying to create in the minds of the rattled brain people on the far right something that is really disturbed, that somehow you can disagree with somebody and leap over the fence to “it’s a regime of liars. It’s a coup. It’s somehow brought in illegitimately.” They’re finding a new way to say what they’ve been trying to say since the President was elected the first time by majority vote. “This guy isn’t president.” That’s what they’re trying do, “regime.”

JOAN WALSH, editor-in-chief, Salon: That’s exactly it. It’s a new firm of birtherism. It’s a new way to say it’s not legitimate, he doesn’t belong there.