This quote sums it up best: “You can have a penis and still be a woman.”
Via Newsbusters:
MARC LAMONT HILL: …[F]or me Piers, the bigger issue isn’t the use of language. It’s the fact that so much of the interview centered around the sensational aspects – about genitalia. There’s so much more about trans life, trans experience, that I wanted you to cover….
MORGAN: No, wait a minute – wait a minute, okay?…I never mentioned her genitalia at all ever in either interview. You’re the first to mention. I didn’t mention this.
HILL: Well, when you say – well, look, you alluded to it when we talk about – if you talk about surgery and when you talk about saying a boy until 18. It implies that she – her womanhood is attached to surgeries-
AMY HOLMES: She had surgery!
BEN FERGUSON: She was a boy!
HILL: That was a very dangerous point-
FERGUSON: She was a boy!…
HILL: Trans identity does not hinge upon surgery. You can have a penis and still be a woman – a trans-woman. That’s the point.